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while another day another round of documents and  Revelations around Jeffrey Epstein now people  

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who downplayed their relationship with Jeffrey  Epstein are continuing to have the answer for it  

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The Wall Street Journal is out with part two  of their sort of bombshell Revelations about  

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Jeffrey Epstein first it was his calendars Now new  documents are emerging about Bill Gates and Woody  

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Allen and deeper Dives on all of this stuff  and for that we want to turn to investigative  

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journalist Whitney Webb who of course has been has  written a two-volume book on the Deep State Mafia  

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and the Jeffrey Epstein connections and running  the sort of government Shadow government that  

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we see and has been diving into these documents  Whitney joins us you just wrote a new piece on  

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Noam Chomsky and the questions surrounding you  know why was Noam Chomsky meeting with Jeffrey  

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Epstein and those Revelations but first it's  like at a high level Whitney I just want to get  

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your response to the second Wall Street Journal  dumping of documents and the other day I asked  

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you when you were you were on earlier this week  with the first round of this is you know why now  

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why are we learning about this now and where did  the Wall Street Journal get these documents we  

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were talking before the show a little bit here  you have some new theories I'd love to hear them  

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yeah so whilst The Wall Street Journal as far as  you know regarding how it got these documents as  

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far as I've seen there's been no transparency  there in none of the documents that they've  

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reported on have been released and it's still  not clear how they obtain them or from whom  

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and or why it's coming out now so the second part  that came out today that you're referring to has  

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a lot of names that are not really that new in  relation to the Epstein Scandal you know people  

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like Larry Summers uh Glenn and Ava Dubin um  you know Bill Gates of course you know these  

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are names that have been circulating around  Epstein uh since at least 2019 if not earlier  

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um now I've had a little more time to think about  why they might be putting this out there now and  

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I think the answer may be to take heat off  of the four billionaires who were subpoenaed  

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as part of this U.S Virgin Island JP Morgan  Epstein case because those are very astounding  

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um so one of the more astounding ones or  the there's two that really stick out there  

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one is Sergey Brin the Google co-founder um and  the other one is uh Michael orvitz who used to be  

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head of Walt Disney and a top a talent agent for  Hollywood so um yeah so the fact that those two  

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individuals were subpoenaed by the USVI which is  in possession of lots of documents about Epstein's  

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activities and JP Morgan and how they relate to  his sex trafficking activities the fact that they  

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subpoenaed four billionaires the other two are  Thomas pritzker of Hyatt Hotels whose family has  

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long-standing Intelligence and organized crime  connections that I detail in my book um and then  

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the other one is Mort Zuckerman who bought the  New York daily news after Robert Maxwell's death  

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Maxwell having been the previous owner and  Zuckerman was known to the frequent Epstein's  

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townhouse you know a lot of that isn't necessarily  that revelatory on that end but having the Google  

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co-founder be that close to Epstein and having  a former Walt Disney president being that close  

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to Epstein are pretty significant and as far as  the Disney ties go when orvitz was head of Disney  

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um the head of the imagineering department  at Disney was a guy named Bran farron and  

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while Faron was in that role at Disney he was  advising the U.S military and intelligence  

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all sorts of shady actors and he brought to  the imagineering department Close Associates  

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of Epstein like Marvin Minsky and Danny  Hillis who were very closely involved with  

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um the development of military supercomputers uh  creating artificial intelligence all sorts of very  

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odd things and the fact that they'd be involved  in a company like Disney which of course targets  

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mainly children and of course Minsky was named for  example as being a key part of the sex trafficking  

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operations uh by people like Virginia du Frey  for example um you know this is pretty astounding  

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so the fact that we're having these names come  out with the Wall Street Journal piece you know  

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people are now instead talking about Noam Chomsky  talking about Bill Gates um and not talking about  

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these people who have been subpoenaed in a legal  case about Epstein's sex trafficking Network you  

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know no one's talking about them instead it's  talking about these meetings on their calendars  

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right and so like someone like Chomsky who as  far as the Wall Street Journal reported had  

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three meetings with him that I don't see that  as being as significant for example as you know  

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these four billionaires who have been subpoenaed  but that's getting no coverage so I would suspect  

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it's to take heat off of some of these guys  if you ask me um but then again there are some  

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important Revelations here and I think the bulk  of those Revelations at least ones that are new  

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um were in the first installment of this uh recent  round of Wall Street Journal reporting but in the  

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second piece I do think it's pretty interesting  that they keep bringing up the fact that Epstein  

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was describing himself as being a money manager  for Bill Gates I think that definitely needs to  

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be pursued and I think one of the reasons that  mainstream media even will not do that isn't  

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just because of how extensively Gates funds a lot  of mainstream media Outlets but is also related  

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to the fact that if you look at Epstein's history  he's tied to a series of Microsoft top Executives  

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who flew on his plane in the 1990s and who  connected him with MIT media lab for example and  

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all sorts of other activities you know we're very  much involved with his uh what he was doing and  

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apparently his sex trafficking activities actually  Nathan merville the chief technology officer of  

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Microsoft who flew on Epstein's plane in the  late 90s was named by Alan dershowitz actually  

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is a person that abused minors at Epstein traffic  that's astounding um and and Alan who won't even  

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answer answer questions about it when confronted  and asked questions about it yeah so he says oh  

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you know you shouldn't I didn't do anything with  Virginia Roberts dershowitz in this this line in  

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this particular interview he gave he said you know  oh I wasn't doing that and then refers instead to  

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like maybe you should look at Nathan merville  who Virginia Roberts uh had also named right  

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so that's uh very extreme and there's been no  interest in pursuing him right and he was You Know  

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Chief technology officer of Microsoft uh a very  very close to Bill Gates obviously and another  

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um top Microsoft executive Linda Stone uh hired  a woman from Epstein's entourages her secretary  

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um and is the person that connected him to the MIT  media lab which if you believe a lot of what's in  

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these Wall Street Journal Revelations uh was a key  reason for a lot of these people including Chomsky  

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uh meeting with Epstein related to his activities  in and around MIT so I want to go back to think  

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of there's yeah no I was gonna say I just want  to Circle back on the Bill Gates piece of this  

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it is interesting to your point that the four  billionaires who are involved in this lawsuit  

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you know in an effort to take the heat off of  them and I think you're absolutely right about  

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that that makes a lot of sense but Bill Gates  keep his name keeps getting brought up and up  

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and up and I'm stunned by that so I want to kind  of go back to that point that they make in this  

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piece Gates has repeatedly said that he'd just  like to have dinner with Epstein what 36 times  

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and then these new reports show that he vetted  legal counsel that Epstein vetted legal counsel  

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for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and that  he told people that he was quote managing money  

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for Mr Gates which is really interesting that  seems to me a new revelation of the spokespeople  

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for Bill Gates continue to insist that Epstein  totally misrepresented his relationship uh when  

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talking to other people so what do you make  of this bill these Bill Gates Revelations  

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so again the mainstream media narrative refuses  to say that in uh Gates relationship precedes  

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2011 which again I think is all about protecting  greater scrutiny of the Epstein Microsoft ties  

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and also the Maxwell Family Ties to Microsoft  that took place around in the 1990s when that  

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sort of team up took place but the Bill  and Melinda Gates Foundation has a lot to  

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answer for when it comes to Epstein including  before 2011. one of the top science advisors  

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for that Foundation was a woman named Melanie  Walker that Epstein recruited into his Network  

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in 1992 and she was his science advisor after he  apparently paid for some of her Graduate Studies  

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um and that was in the late 90s and shortly  thereafter she has a brief stint with the  

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World Health Organization and then is hired  uh to be a science advisor to the Bill and  

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Melinda Gates Foundation where she introduces  Epstein to another science advisor of the Gates  

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Foundation Boris nicolic and if you remember Boris  nikolik when Epstein died was actually the backup  

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executor to Epstein's will so why would Epstein  have put nicolic in that position and these are  

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all Ties That predate Epstein and Gates alleged  first meeting per mainstream media in 2011 and  

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then there's the added fact that UK mainstream  media in the year 2000 said that Epstein made  

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his his money because of his business links to  Donald Trump Leslie Wexner and Bill Gates so how  

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would they be able to say that Epstein made his  millions by business time through business times  

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with Bill Gates if they didn't meet for 10 years  after the fact it doesn't make any sense and why  

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would Gates hire someone like Melanie Walker who's  a resume at that point was being science advisor  

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for Jeffrey Epstein you would have to know who  Epstein was and what kind of science he was into  

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and of course there's a lot of overlap  between the science that Epstein was  

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into and the science that Bill Gates is into  yeah I think you're right about that there's  

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other a few other names in this second report  that I wanted to ask you about Reed Hoffman  

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billionaire venture capitalist LinkedIn co-founder  apparently visited Epstein's Private Island  

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um and then it also stayed over in his Manhattan  Manhattan townhouse Woody Allen as you mentioned  

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um attended dozens of dinners with his wife at  Epstein's mansion and went to Epstein who invited  

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Epstein to his film screenings ahud Barack the  former Israeli Prime Minister visited Epstein  

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dozens of times and was on his private jet on a  regular basis and then Leon black the billionaire  

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co-founder of private Equity giant Apollo Global  Management more than a hundred meetings with  

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Epstein from 2013 to 2017. what do you make of  those names oh there's a lot of well there's a lot  

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to say about all of those names because these are  just uh adding to the already known Revelations  

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about these people's ties with Epstein so in the  case of Leon black that was actually investigated  

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by his investment or hedge fund uh Apollo Global  Management which he has since resigned from but  

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the person that investigated his ties uh was a  guy named Buzzy Crown guard who's an ex-cia guy  

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that was tied in insider trading on 9 11. so  I mean it's uh seems like that was probably a  

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big cover-up to say the very least and Leon black  hadn't entrusted uh almost as much of his money uh  

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to Epstein as someone like Leslie Wexner had you  know to a slightly lesser extent was managing a  

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lot of his estate uh was managing his tax planning  which again Epstein's uh role in tax planning for  

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Elites goes back to his time at Bear Stearns in  the late 70s and early 80s when he was uh as you  

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know already engaged in financial criminality and  apparently helping billionaires uh you know engage  

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in Mass tax evasion so you know that obviously  raises some question marks there and Leon black  

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along with uh Glenn Dubin were added to the  board of this um school at Harvard that Leslie  

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Wexner essentially created through his financing  that David gergen runs um at the Harvard Kennedy  

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School the Center for Public leadership which  is openly allied with the world economic forum's  

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young global leaders program and a bunch of you  know these Epstein cronies in Wexner cronies I  

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guess by extension got added to the board so you  have like Dubin and uh and and black and of course  

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Epstein and Larry Summers a lot of people that pop  up in the second part of this Wall Street Journal  

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revolution awesomen around Harvard and then you  have the the MIT connections popping up in both  

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of these um recent Revelations as well so that's  worth considering um and as far as ahud Barack  

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goes the Wall Street Journal declined to note that  The Daily Beast which is considered mainstream  

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media reported that Barack was seen so freak  frequently at the apartments where trafficked  

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girls were housed which is owned by Osa properties  which involves a bunch of former Jeffrey Epstein  

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employees and is run by his brother Mark  Epstein he's Barack spent the night there  

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um you know all sorts of dubious connections uh  between Barack and the sex trafficking Scandal  

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that did not make it into the Wall Street Journal  report right and or add some important context I  

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think is pretty clear and of course um when it  comes to Woody Allen I'm sure most people are uh  

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probably familiar with his past scandals including  the fact that his um ex partner actress Mia Farrow  

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he is alleged uh and it's been extensively  corroborated by Witnesses and other sources that  

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he sexually uh molested his her adopted daughter  Dylan Farrow at least when she was seven years  

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old but according to court documents took a sexual  interest in her when she was between the ages of  

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two and three and his current wife is actually  another one of Mia Farrell's adopted children  

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that Woody Allen met when she was a child  uh though uh this per his current wife SUNY  

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Previn uh maintains they didn't have their first  quote-unquote friendly interaction until she was a  

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teenager and her really Woody Allen's relationship  with Mia Pharaoh ended when she found nude uh  

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photographs of SUNY Previn uh in his house when  she was uh I believe 18 or 19 years old so Woody  

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Allen and Jeffrey Epstein certainly seem to have  had a lot in common and that may explain why they  

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uh socialize so frequently because obviously if  you're familiar with the relationship between SUNY  

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Previn and Woody Allen a lot of people probably  didn't really want to be around that to an extent  

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that we're actually against that type of activity  but certainly Epstein would not have been bothered  

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by that to say the very least so I think that sort  of explains that's that's his sick Jam sadly sadly  

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enough that's what he yeah that was sadly what  he was into um unbelievable so uh I mean I'll  

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get you out of here on this final question  which is in this latest round of documents  

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um or this latest uh these latest story from the  Wall Street Journal uh are there still gaping  

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holes that you would love for them to answer to  to fill in other there's things in your reporting  

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that you would love for them to answer for here  yeah I would say release the documents no one  

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can verify what these documents are and what  they say and what the Wall Street Journal is  

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leaving out keep in mind the Wall Street Journal  as I'm as far as I'm aware is owned by newscourt  

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which is Rupert Murdoch which recently fired  Tucker Carlson for saying too much right so  

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right you know especially yeah specifically  right so it's it's fair to say that there's  

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probably names here that they're keeping out of  the Limelight for whatever reason because keep  

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in mind you know people like Rupert Murdoch have  been involved in these quote unquote deep State  

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networks for much of his media career and he also  had a very prominent Feud and rivalry with Robert  

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Maxwell about buying you know building parallel  media Empires so you know I wouldn't necessarily  

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trust this guy or you know a mainstream media  Outlet like the Wall Street Journal and I really  

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think the best way forward is transparency with  these documents because according to the journal  

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itself in these reports it is they call it a  trove of documents thousands of pages not just  

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of calendar of his calendar and his meetings and  his schedules but emails release the emails yeah  

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you know and this is something that's come up  time and again with reporting why can't you  

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just release the emails or the source documents  or any of the stuff and it very rarely happens  

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um and uh frankly I think it's it's definitely  time for greater visibility into not just the  

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documents themselves but who gave them to  the Wall Street Journal you know there's a  

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lot of unanswered questions here that again a  lot of people don't seem interested in asking  

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and I go back to what I said earlier I  think you know why can't they mention  

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uh any of these big Tech Bill especially with the  Reed Hoffman Revelations right of LinkedIn uh he  

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Hoffman had been known to have taken Epstein to a  big Silicon Valley Meetup that involved people uh  

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um uh some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley  Epstein um allegedly knew people like Elon Musk  

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Mark Zuckerberg the biggest names in Tech you  of course have Bill Gates and Microsoft and now  

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Sergey Brin has been subpoenaed and they don't  note any of these Silicon Valley connections  

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and they're reporting Beyond just oh Reed Hoffman  had more uh meetings with Epstein than he was you  

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know open about and it's it's a bit odd and even  with the Chomsky Revelations actually Epstein had  

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openly said that he had invited Chomsky to his  home in an interview he gave uh to a Science  

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magazine journalist in 2017 and he said the reason  he invited Chomsky to his home was to explicitly  

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discuss artificial intelligence that didn't make  it into the Wall Street Journal report so either  

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they're not doing their homework or you know  they're trying to give a very limited scope of  

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what these Revelations contain and again you know  they'll say what the documents contain and then  

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quickly give the statements uh of these people  distant distancing themselves from Epstein but  

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again you know as my work is shown in the work of  others has shown there's a much deeper story here  

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for sure and Whitney Webb has a new article out  on her website unlimitedhangout.com unraveling  

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the Epstein Chomsky relationship so I encourage  you all to go and read that we will have that  

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linked up in the description below as well  it's always great to catch up with you Whitney  

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Webb investigative journalist thank you so  much for your Insight and Analysis on this  

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thanks my pleasure and thanks for your  interest in the story thank you so much  

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