What US Secretary of State Marco Rubio Said In Brussels Is An Eye Opening Reality— A New World Order
no no their econ No no no no no no their economies are not crashing their markets are reacting no their economies are not crashing their markets are reacting to a dramatic change in the global order in terms of trade and so what happens is pretty straightforward if you're a company and you make a bunch of your products in China and all of a sudden shareholders or people that play the stock market realize that it's going to cost a lot more to produce in China your stock is going to go down but ultimately the markets as long as as long as they know what the the rules are going to be moving forward and as long as that's set in and you can sustain where you're going to be the markets will adjust businesses around the world including in trade and global trade they just need to know what the rules are once they know what the rules are they will adjust to those rules so I I don't think it's fair to say economies are crashing markets are crashing because markets are based on the stock value of companies who today are embedded in modes of production that are bad for the United States we have to be a country that think we're the largest consumer market in the world and yet the only thing we export is services and we need to stop that we need to get back to a time of worry country that can make things and to do that we have to reset the global order of trade term and the other part of my question well the worst thing is to leave it the way it is forever i mean this is just can't continue we can't continue to be a country that doesn't make things we have to be able to make things to provide jobs for Americans we and that that's it it's that simple china as an example i mean it's it's outrageous i mean they don't consume anything all they do is export and flood and and distort markets in addition to all the tariffs and barriers they put in place so the president rightly has concluded that the current status of global trade is bad for America and good for a bunch of other people and he's going to reset it and he's absolutely right to do it ask you about also the predictability of relationships with allies the prime minister of Greenland excuse me the prime minister of Denmark which at this point owns Greenland so Denmark a NATO ally is saying that it's unacceptable that one country cannot annex another country born no one's annexed anything it's going to be up to Greenlanders the vice president made that clear he's going to respect the self-determination of Greenlanders so at some point the Greenlanders have made clear that they want to be independent of Denmark so that's the Greenland Denmark should focus on the fact that the Greenlanders don't want to be a part of Denmark that's what they should focus on we didn't give them that idea they've been talking about that for a long time whenever they make that decision they'll make that decision and then the what what we're not going to do is let China come in now and and say offer them a bunch of money and become you know dependent on China the president said he would not rule out using military force against Denmark a NATO ally no he said he would not rule out No no no he said he would not rule out he said I'm not going to rule out anything if Den if Greenland is encroached upon by a foreign power like a China or Russia or anybody else but it doesn't matter because Greenlanders are going to make a decision they're the ones that want to get away from Denmark they're the ones that want to be independent and not us we didn't come up with that idea they did and if they make that decision then the United States would stand ready potentially to step in and say "Okay we can create a partnership with you." We're not at that stage but that's what the vice president made clear last week in his visit there his statement was very abundantly clear that we will respect the self-determination of the people of Greenland the people of Greenland and they're the ones that want to leave Denmark that wasn't our idea all right well second question here missy from uh Washington Post mr secretary I'd like to ask you about the Russia Ukraine negotiations can you give us um the your tell us about the American assessment of the conditions that Russia put forward um following the regarding the Black Sea ceasefire talks and also the British and French foreign minister said this morning that Putin was dragging his feet do you agree with that that maybe he might be we don't know yet we're going to find out fairly soon i mean look we are here's what the president wanted to do he wants to end this war and he wanted to test it very early in his administration is it possible to end this war on terms that are acceptable obviously to both sides because you can't end a war unless both sides agree and that's what we're in the process of finding out we will know soon enough in a matter of weeks not months whether Russia is serious about peace or not i hope they are it would be good for the world if that war ended but obviously we have to test that proposition so we're working through that process we had a visitor that Mr carrill was here this week had a chance to sit down with him he met with others uh he'll take some messages back and the message is the United States needs to know whether you're serious or not about peace ultimately Putin will have to make that decision the Russian Federation will have to make that decision uh I think the Ukrainians have shown a willingness to enter for example into a complete ceasefire to create space for uh negotiation at some point here fairly soon not 6 months from now you know the the Russian and Putin will have to make a decision about whether they're serious for peace or not and I hope they are serious it would be good for the world if that war ended what is your assessment of the Russian conditions that were put forward and also Demetri have said following his talks with Mr wickoff yesterday that the US and Russia might resume direct flights as maybe a confidence building measure do do you support that well I haven't heard anything about direct flights i can tell you but I don't know who's going to fly in because all these people are sanctioned but I would just tell you that um the the the thing I would point to you is this i'm not we're going to wait and see the Russians know our position in terms of wanting to end the war and we will know from their answers very soon whether they are serious about proceeding with real peace or whether this is a delay tactic it's a delay tactic the president's not interested in that if this is dragging things out Donald President Trump's not going to fall into the trap of endless negotiations about negotiations we won't know soon enough whether or not Russia's serious about peace if they are that'll be great then we can move towards peace if they're not then we'll have to reevaluate where we stand and and what we do moving forward about it but we'll be in no different a position than we are today or we were when he took office he wanted to know early in his administration is peace possible we're testing to see if the Russians are interested in peace their actions not their words their actions will determine whether they're serious or not and we intend to find that out sooner rather than later what about their conditions which condition they put forward additional conditions after you the season yeah so again I mean this is part of the the back and forth of these sorts of things i've had phone calls with foreign leaders and then I read the readout and it's like oh we said them you never they they came they said something to me they never said I guess that's part of the game in this place or whatever but look I don't bottom line is to me at the end of the day what's going to matter here is whether we're going to move towards peace or not if peace is real we will know soon enough if they're not interested in peace we will know soon enough and we'll make decisions on the basis I hope they are real there are some promising signs there are some troubling signs it's not going to be easy no one ever said this would be easy but we're going to find out sooner rather than later and let's just say I'm hopeful i remain hopeful i need to be hopeful that peace is possible and that the Russians are serious about peace we want them to be serious about peace and hopefully they are but we'll know sooner rather than later daffany Reuters uh hi sorry I'm back here your last name is Reuters oh it's pretty cool isn't it how you Go ahead uh on the 5% defense spending target have you received push back to this idea while you've been here this week and you mentioned yesterday up to 5% uh was your language what do you mean by up to 5% well I said up to a path up getting up to 5% at some point i'm not saying overnight but to get to that point we think that's what NATO allies need to be spending for NATO to face the threats that itself has identified and articulated here's the good news the good news is everyone generally with a couple with a couple exceptions are spending more on defense today than they were three four five years ago that's positive that trend needs to continue so the trend lines are good but they need to continue but this is not about spending okay this is not about money necessarily this is about capability in order for NATO to be stronger it needs partners that are stronger okay the United States commits a lot to NATO and continues to we are as involved in NATO today as we have ever been and we intend to continue to be but it has to be a real alliance and that means that our alliance partners have to increase their own capabilities so hopefully two things have led to that the first is the war in Ukraine i think has woken up a lot of people on the continent about real threats and real war and the other is I think the pressure and and the statements of President Trump that have been pretty consistent about increasing their spending so this whole trajectory of more defense spending began I believe back in 2017 2018 under President Trump's first term we want that trend to continue and we're hoping when the leaders meet in the HEG that there'll be further and firmer commitments in that direction i think it's beneficial to the alliance the stronger our partners in NATO are the more capable our partners in NATO are the stronger NATO is and everybody should be in favor of that and sorry just to follow up so will you try and get the official target as 5% rather than 2% and will the US commit to 5% sure we're heading there now we're going to have to spend more on national security because we have a global footprint and that's the point that I think's been made and missed uh in a lot of places okay the United States has Indo-Pacific alliance obligations as well that we've made we are currently involved in opening up the Red Sea so that global shipping for everyone including our European partners can become possible again we're engaged in counter drug and counter gang interdictions in the Western Hemisphere there's obviously all sorts of issues going on in different parts of the world including we're concerned about a resurgence of terrorist cells whether it's in Africa or in the Middle East so the US has these global oblig obligations and we have China that's undergoing the largest most expansive peacetime military expansion in history so we need to confront all of these things and we're engaged in all of those things so we're going to have to increase defense spending in our country um I think our commitment to NATO isn't just three and something percent spending of GDP it's sustained over extraordinary period of time and that continues so um look I think our partners know they need to do more they've all indicated they want to do more they've begun to do more and that trend needs to continue mr secretary you mentioned that you met with Puriel Dutri as well in order to stop them from dragging their feet and dragging this on is there anything that you said perhaps not threats but is there anything that you said you wanted to see concretely from the Russian side in order to peace we want to see peace but specifics in terms of getting to this ceasefire first and then the negotiations yeah i mean peace means you stop shooting at each other i mean it's as simplistic as that now obviously look there are all kinds of conditions for a final peace and you have to work with both sides and I've said from the beginning the only way a war ends in a negotiated settlement if it's not an unconditional surrender then it is both sides make concessions we're not going to prejudge what those concessions are because those concessions will depend on what Ukraine will accept and Russia will accept but we have to make concrete steps towards peace what we're not interested in and I'm not accusing them of this I'm just telling you what we're not interested in is negotiations about negotiations that we're not going to continue this forever so none of it was threatening i think it was more an explanation of this is our timeline and at some point it'll be clear whether you want peace or you don't want peace and that time is coming it's pretty short at the same time as we now have seen members of Congress have begun to file bills file bills to increase sanctions so there is going to be growing pressure from Capitol Hill to impose sanctions that we're not going to be able to stop if in fact we're not making progress towards peace all these factors have been explained in the nicest way possible hopefully he'll take that message back to Moscow and it'll make clear that we need to begin to see real progress or we'll have to conclude that they're not interested in peace but let's hope they are because I think it would be better for everyone every Well we need to hear an answer to this i mean you talks are only we're going to have talks as long as talks are about something they can't be talks about talks uh at the end you know uh I think initially it was important to talk because we hadn't talked to them in a long time but now we've reached the stage where we need to make make progress and if we're not making progress towards peace then we have a set of factors that we have to take into account but hopefully we are going to make progress towards peace i remain optimistic that we can it'll be hard it'll be difficult but I'm optimistic that we can mr secretary the the Myanmar earthquake I mean normally in these kind of events you would have up to 200 Americans with sniffer dogs special equipment experts in their field saving lives on the ground this has not happened because of the dismantling of US well that and the fact that it's run by a military honta that doesn't like us so it's hard for us to move around in that country i say it's it's these events are always non-political they went into Syria for example in the Turkey Syria earthquake so they can access well we're not the government of the world no we we'll provide humanitarian assistance just like everybody else does and we will do it the best we can but we also have other needs we have to balance that against we're not walking away from humanitarian assistance but again I go back there's a lot of other rich countries in the world they should all be pitching in we're going to do our part we already have people there we'll have more people there we'll help as much as we can it's not the easiest place to work okay they have a military hunter that doesn't like us doesn't necessarily allow us to operate in that country the way we wanted to that would have impeded our response no matter what that said we are willing to continue to help in the humanitarian crisis other countries need to do so as well china is a very rich country india is a rich country there are a lot of other countries in the world and everyone should pitch in i don't think it's fair to assume that the United States needs to continue to share the burden 60 70% of humanitarian aid around the world we will be in the business of humanitarian aid but we have other priorities as well that are national interest priorities of the United States and we're going to align all those to be properly balanced isn't this a dimution of your soft power i mean all of the experts in this have said the reason is not because of the politics of Myanmar but it's because of the dismantling of US aid you simply couldn't deploy yeah i don't listen to these so-called experts there's not real experts these are so-called experts these are people that are part of that NGO um industrial complex no no these are people that made millions and hundreds and millions of dollars in these NOS's all over the world that stand up and they get flooded with US taxpayer money and then we have to spend 10 $100 million to get $10 million to people we're not doing that anymore okay we have stopped we are no longer going to spend 10 million $100 million to get $10 million to recipients we're not going to fund these global NOS's all over the world that are living off of this we're not doing it we are prepared to help and work with governments and appropriate NOS's on the ground that are are delivering assistance we will be there and we will be helpful there are a lot of other rich countries they should also pitch in and help and some of them are and some of them are not but we are going to do our part we're going to continue to do our part but it's going to be balanced with all of the other interests we have as a country we are not a nation we are the richest country in the world but our resources are not unlimited they are not unlimited and we have a massive national debt and we have many other priorities as well and it's time to recalibrate all of that so we'll be there we'll be helpful as much as we can we've got other things we have to take care of as well but we care deeply about what's happened there and we wish we had a more cooperative government mr secretary the Middle East was part of your discussion here in NATO especially that did you find uh support from members toward your policy of air strikes in the Houthis and your maximum pressure policy toward Iran yeah I mean on the Houthies everybody wants to get their ships through the Red Sea we're the only ones doing anything about it but everyone wants to you know get their ships through there as I said we've done the world a great favor by taking on this band of criminals who have unfortunately sophisticated weaponry that they can use to I mean they've attacked what 150 160 merchant vessels 174 times they've attacked the United States Navy so I I think the world should be grateful to the United States for being involved in this and doing this everyone thanks us for it um I understand these nations have limited capabilities despite being very rich countries nobody else can project power there and do this but uh but that said um we're we're we we think that mission is going to bear fruit and it's necessary we can't have a band of criminals controlling that in the case of Iran I don't know of any country in the world that's excited about Iran ever having a nuclear weapons capability um some are more forceful about it than others uh we've had talks about that as you know the president would like to figure out what's going to happen there but he's also made it clear that there's not going to be a nuclear armed Iran that's not going to happen under his watch mr secretary what's your message to foreign citizens who may be afraid to come to the United States because they're concerned about potentially being detained over some minor admin administrative error or because they might have something on their phone like criticism of the president or of the Israel Gaza conflict no no no come into the United States no first of all those people that have their phones looked at and so forth and you know you'll have to I'll refer you to CBP to go through their processes but generally it's people that have been flagged coming in for a reason i would say that if you're not coming to the United States to join a Hamas protest or to come here and tell us about how right Hamas is or to tell us about you know stir up conflict on our campuses and create riots in our street and vandalize our universities then you have nothing to worry about but thousands thousands and thousands of people come into the US every single day to conduct business to travel uh to do all sorts to visit relatives it happens every day it's it's very common place and nobody has a problem i mean if you're coming here to create problems you're you're probably going to have a problem and I think that's a good thing if you're coming here to create problems not here to the United States you're probably going to have a problem yeah we're not we're not going to continue to be stupid enough to let people into our country who are coming here to tear things up not going to happen mr secretary have the Russians done anything concrete to make you encouraged that they are truly interested in peace and when you talk about timeline I know you're not going to give a specific timeline but you talking weeks are you talking months i think we're talking weeks probably yeah i mean you know there's a lot that has to happen here in the next few weeks in order for this to be real in terms of concrete um they've agreed to certain things i mean I think their things are not striking now that they were before obviously both sides claim that the ceasefire is being violated as typical of ceasefires like this but that said not concrete in terms of are we closer to peace we're closer to peace simply because we're talking to both sides but we're not closer to peace because we have a deal on our hands to end this conflict but we're going to know soon enough that's my point I make everybody you know people come "Oh well Putin you can't trust him." This is not about trusting Putin not about trusting anybody this is about actions if you're interested in peace you stop fighting and you and you lay out the conditions by which you're willing to end a war and they have to be reasonable conditions right not crazy stuff if you're interested in peace that's what you do if you're not interested in peace then you sort of drag it out and you come up with excuses and you pull and we know that and we're not going to get pulled into that but let's hope it doesn't come to that let's hope it you know let's let's let's be optimistic that that that's not the direction we're going we're prepared if it is but let's hope that we're not heading in a direction of this is just a delay tactic all right one more and then we wrap up don't you guys want to go home the ones that came with us your allies here and also Ukraine they believe that Russia is actually preparing for another to launch another campaign some mil campaign as soon as the winter season ends do you have any reason to to doubt that that they're going to do what i'm sorry the Russians Russians are they are preparing to start another military camp well then we'll know they're not interested in peace and at this very moment they're targeting energy sites can I get your reaction they're targeting what i'm so sorry energy sites in Ukraine well again this is I get that means they're violating the ceasefire that's not a good sign you know but I think that would tell you this that ultimately this is a war right now things are going to be blowing up in Ukraine and inside of Russia because there's still a war going on that's what we're trying to end okay if we have a true ceasefire which is what we wanted a complete ceasefire nothing should be blowing up but the Russians didn't agree to that they wanted a partial and then obviously when you get into these partials that's one of the reasons why we didn't push for a partial we'll take it because it's better than nothing but one of the reasons why didn't we push why we didn't push for a partial because there's always disputes about what are you hitting and what you're not hitting but in the end this is still a war and we want it to stop the fact that religious sites are being hit or energy sites are being hit or civilian sites are being hit that's why war is a bad thing and that's why the president wants to end it as far as them conducting another campaign well then that'll be a very clear sign right if all of a sudden we wake up tomorrow and the Russians are launching a massive offensive then I think that's a pretty clear sign they're not interested in peace that hasn't happened yet let's hope it doesn't happen we want to know whether they want to do peace or not and if they do then there's a way there and we're willing to help if they're not then it's good to know early so we can adjust our policies accordingly all right everybody thank you so much thank you guys thank you guys
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