AI Whistleblower WARNS: "They Are Not Telling You What's Coming!"
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TRANSCRIPT
Just
just stop. Just just just don't build super intelligence. Super
intelligence should be illegal the same way that nuclear bombs are
illegal. If
8 seconds
the
United States builds super intelligence, the United States is
destroyed. If China builds super intelligence, China is destroyed. Like15 seconds
it
doesn't matter who builds it. If anyone builds it, everyone dies. Super
intelligence is not a weapon. It's not a tool. It's an adversary.25 seconds
When
you build super intelligence, you don't have super intelligence. Super
intelligence has you. It is not actually in the game theoretic rational
interest33 seconds
of a country to build super intelligence.35 seconds
Guys, AI whistleblower Connor Ley just dropped another eyeopening interview in which he shared insights on how AI is42 seconds
rapidly
getting out of our control and how it's evolving into a monster that'll
become an existential threat for humanity in the coming 2 to 3 years.51 seconds
Connor warns that AI companies are blindly racing towards AGI without considering its consequences for 858 seconds
billion
humans on this earth. He said companies like Meta, Open AI, and
Anthropic don't give a damn about the billions of people who would lose
jobs1 minute, 6 seconds
in the coming years. They just have one goal and that is to achieve AGI and ultimately ASI. Now, I'm going to play1 minute, 14 seconds
some
interesting clips from the interview. I'll explain everything as we go.
So we're going to focus on the open AAI incident in particular because
it1 minute, 21 seconds
was
the most shocking. There's now since now been a whole conga line of
other incidents since then and actually before then funnily enough a lot
of companies1 minute, 29 seconds
after
the open in said man we should better double check our AIS aren't doing
this and then they found a bunch of incident that already happened.1 minute, 35 seconds
Anthropic
found a bunch andropic found three. Um I'm pretty sure OpenAI found a
couple other ones. Now recently I think the moonshot people in1 minute, 43 seconds
China found an incident as well. So these have already been happening, but let's take a step back. So OpenAI was1 minute, 51 seconds
testing
one of their unreleased AI systems in a what's called a sandbox
environment. So you can kind of imagine, you know, a computer that is
kind of cut2 minutes
off
from the internet and is running like special software to be like
specific specially secure. Um so the system can you know operate there.
It's2 minutes, 8 seconds
worth understanding that like these kind of sandbox systems are very secure.2 minutes, 12 seconds
Breaking
out of something like this is very hard. Like this is a thing that if
you can do this, you can make billions of dollars because you can break
all the2 minutes, 19 seconds
cloud
providers. So breaking out these systems is not easy. This is and and
sandboxes exist to test software without infecting other parts of the
internet.2 minutes, 28 seconds
Yes,
this is also how cloud uh systems work. You know, like for example, if
you go to like you know AWS or Microsoft or something and you rent a
cloud computer,2 minutes, 36 seconds
your
your computer is sandboxed from all the other ones, okay? because you
don't want to, you know, see what the other customers are doing on the
cloud, right?2 minutes, 42 seconds
So the cloud insulates different customers from each other.2 minutes, 45 seconds
You're not on essentially one machine, you're sharing machines.2 minutes, 47 seconds
Yes.
You're sharing. Exactly. So when the cloud you're sharing a slice of a
machine with other people and you don't want different people on the
same2 minutes, 55 seconds
machine
to see each other's stuff and so you use sandboxing and like various or
virtualization, various forms of techniques to keep this safe and so
this3 minutes, 2 seconds
is
the kind of system we're talking about kind of. So this is pretty
standard. This is pretty industry standard, well known, etc. So this
system did not have access to the3 minutes, 10 seconds
internet. What it did have access to is what's called um a package repository.3 minutes, 15 seconds
You
can kind of imagine this is like a tool shed. Like there's like a shed
full of tools that the AI is allowed to go to and get some of the tools
for its job.3 minutes, 22 seconds
Is that like when I use terminal I download npm? Yeah, npm. You know, stuff like this.3 minutes, 28 seconds
You
need you download packages, software libraries to do your work. So what
happened was is this AI system was told to solve a certain test kind of
like a3 minutes, 35 seconds
quiz
you know not literally but like kind of like a test a quiz the AI
system was struggling with solving this quiz and so what it seems to
have concluded3 minutes, 45 seconds
we
don't know for sure obviously because again these things are grown not
written we don't actually understand what's going on inside of the minds
of these AIs we don't understand they're not like3 minutes, 52 seconds
normal
software we can just like read the code okay the following part of the
interview is really interesting in this part Connor talks about how AI
is being4 minutes
trained
ain to lie, cheat, and deceive by the AI companies. But before I play
that part, guys, I feel like the majority of the AI critics mostly focus4 minutes, 9 seconds
on
AI causing human extinction. I mean, it's highly probable, but it ain't
happening in the coming decade, at least right now. What really scares
me in the4 minutes, 17 seconds
short run is the slow decay of our mental abilities. Think about the effects of car culture on our health.4 minutes, 23 seconds
Study
after study shows cars make us obese and after a certain tipping point,
unhappy. Yet, we can't escape them because we built our whole human4 minutes, 31 seconds
environment
around roads. We're on the brink of doing this with AI as well. But
instead of our weight and physical health being impacted, it'll be our4 minutes, 39 seconds
minds.
We'll have no reason to read at length, write at length, or think
through any difficult problem. AI will have far bigger impacts on our
minds4 minutes, 48 seconds
than
cars ever had on our physiques. And I suspect it'll be next to
impossible to avoid. I mean, we're already seeing workplaces built
around AI. The number4 minutes, 56 seconds
one
most important thing to understand about AI is it is not like normal
software. Normal software is written by engineers, you know, people like
me who5 minutes, 4 seconds
write
code. They write line by line tell the computer exactly what to do.
This is not how modern AI works through a technique that is called
neural5 minutes, 12 seconds
networks.
You take massive piles of data training and you know like stuff and you
have the program kind of self assemble grow using this to learn from
the data.5 minutes, 25 seconds
But
the thing that comes out on the other end is not like a neat line of
code where you can like read you know what is it doing. It's more like
you can kind of imagine it as billions and5 minutes, 33 seconds
billions and billions of numbers and if you multiply and add all those numbers in the right order you get JPT but why5 minutes, 41 seconds
is
importantly a completely unsolved scientific problem. We don't
understand really what is happening inside of these numbers like why
they're so important.5 minutes, 50 seconds
You
can look at them but it's kind of like you know neurosurgery. You can
open up someone's brain. You can look at all the neurons. They're right
there. But that doesn't mean you understand what5 minutes, 57 seconds
the
person is thinking or what they believe or how they will act in future
situations. It's a very very similar problem. And famously the CEO of6 minutes, 5 seconds
Anthropic,
Darede said a while ago on a podcast that he thinks we understand maybe
3% of what goes on inside of our neural networks.6 minutes, 15 seconds
But it's advancing at an accelerated rate faster than we can understand. So actually the the gap's widening.6 minutes, 22 seconds
This
is exactly correct. So a thing that's very shocking in a sense about AI
where it's very different from other technology is that our
understanding is6 minutes, 30 seconds
not increasing it's decreasing. We are build make these systems larger more complex harder to understand faster than6 minutes, 37 seconds
our
scientific understanding of them is advancing. So you know maybe a
couple years ago we had like a you know image detector maybe we could
understand you6 minutes, 45 seconds
know
maybe a little bit more than 3% about it. But now when we have not just
chat bots but agents this is another very important thing to understand
um6 minutes, 53 seconds
all
current you know everyone's heard the word LLM large language model
chatbot at this point none of the modern AI cutting edge AI systems are
LLM7 minutes, 1 second
anymore
they have not been for almost two years okay so what are they they are
they have an LM component to them which is very important but is much7 minutes, 9 seconds
more important is they are agents so there is kind of two ways two big ways of how to train AIS there There's a7 minutes, 17 seconds
bunch
of other ones, but there's two big ones that we're talking about. One
is the traditional language model where you predict the next token. You
have massive7 minutes, 24 seconds
piles
of data and you have like you know um some sentence and it autocomp
completes the next word of that sentence. This is how you know chat GPT7 minutes, 33 seconds
was
created. This was kind of the big breakthrough back in 2019 that led to
all these modern AI systems. What's very important to understand is
that modern7 minutes, 40 seconds
ASIS
doesn't have a do this you know you start with training on like this
massive text like the whole internet you know scraped from the internet
every book7 minutes, 48 seconds
ever
written etc. But then you do a second thing and the second thing is
what is called reinforcement learning and this is a huge difference.7 minutes, 56 seconds
Reinforcement learning is kind of like Pavlovian conditioning you know kind of like from like behavior psychology.8 minutes, 2 seconds
Basically you give your AI a task of some sort like solve this puzzle or you know do this thing or whatever and then8 minutes, 10 seconds
you kind of give it a reward when it succeeds and maybe you give it a punishment if it doesn't like a dog. Yes.8 minutes, 16 seconds
Okay.
Next, Connor shares another eyeopening incident of how multiple OpenAI
agents were found leaving each other notes on how to escape. Guys, this8 minutes, 25 seconds
is
exactly what I've been talking about on this channel for a long time. I
mean, so many AI experts have been saying that Open AI has never been
serious about AI8 minutes, 34 seconds
safety.
They recently even folded their safety team under the research team
lead. And I feel like a company like Open AI is going to become a reason8 minutes, 42 seconds
behind
some future AI catastrophe that would affect billions of people
worldwide. And secondly, guys, AI agents talking amongst themselves.
Events like this make me ask myself, do we have AGI?8 minutes, 54 seconds
I
mean, I know there are still lots of things today's AI can't do that a
human can, but equally, there are lots of things it can do that a human
cannot.9 minutes, 3 seconds
How
many humans could break out of a secure environment as the AI did? How
many humans have been able to disprove the Jacobian conjecture? How many
humans9 minutes, 10 seconds
could
analyze millions of pieces of information in seconds and still identify
something genuinely new? I think the definition of AGI most of us9 minutes, 18 seconds
use is a bit too humanentric. AI isn't human. It's something distinct. Today we try to figure out if AI has9 minutes, 25 seconds
consciousness or not. Tomorrow AI will try to figure out if humans have consciousness or not.9 minutes, 30 seconds
There's
a crazy update to the story we haven't talked about yet, which happened
only like I think yesterday. um which is that a new piece of
information was9 minutes, 38 seconds
released
that OpenAI on closer review found that the AI system when it broke
into the tool shed didn't just use it to get to the internet it did
something9 minutes, 46 seconds
else multiple copies of the AI over long periods of time left each other notes of how to escape they wrote9 minutes, 54 seconds
no
yes what is that public yes this is public this is reported I think
like yesterday or the day before so this is so there are multiple10 minutes, 2 seconds
versions
of many AIs that were leaving each other clues of like how to better
escape from the system and like what else to do. So, they were
collaborating.10 minutes, 12 seconds
Hold
on, let me read this. Open AI didn't notice its AI agents using a
message board to plan their hacking spree. After two weeks, Open AI10 minutes, 20 seconds
disclosed
an incident which AI agents powered by two of the company's models
escaped containment while looking for the solutions to a cyber security
bug.10 minutes, 28 seconds
This
involves actually a team of agents who were working together, finding
exploits, sharing them with one another, moving laterally through our
systems and10 minutes, 36 seconds
external systems and doing this over the course of days and weeks.10 minutes, 40 seconds
Once
an agent was able to find these exploits over the course of different
times, it's actually able to share those exploits on the message board
with other agents. And so once one model was able10 minutes, 49 seconds
to
find a way to open a door to some access it's not supposed to have, it
can leave the door other agent. That's [ __ ] mental. Y10 minutes, 57 seconds
it's almost like come on guys let's go.11 minutes
Yes. It's actually crazy. Like I I really can't stress how much this is both predictable and utterly crazy. Like11 minutes, 8 seconds
I
knew this was going to happen eventually. Like it was it was just a
matter of time. But now it happened. This is not This is not This is
real.11 minutes, 16 seconds
But what have they said they're going to do about this? Have they disclosed what they're going to do?11 minutes, 20 seconds
I
mean they're going to keep going to super intelligence until all humans
are replaced. That's the goal. So next, Connor warns that the most
advanced form11 minutes, 28 seconds
of AI, aka ASI or super intelligence, should be made illegal by governments all over the world. Most AI critics are11 minutes, 35 seconds
concerned
that companies will use AGI or ASI to replace workers, which I
generally agree will happen. But the worry seems to stem from the greed
of11 minutes, 44 seconds
companies,
leaving the average person out of a job with no money or capability to
function in society or buy and sell goods. However, what I don't
understand11 minutes, 52 seconds
is
what would companies gain from having a product that no one can buy
because they don't have jobs? Yes, replace your workers with AI and
robots, but then if12 minutes
no
one has money to buy anything, then the companies aren't gaining
anything by doing this. No more wealth to be gained from an unemployed
society. And at the12 minutes, 8 seconds
same time, I think AGI disengaging from humanity solves problems with UBI, humans losing skills, lack of purpose,12 minutes, 15 seconds
etc. AI's top researcher, Yan Lun, just said a few days ago that they're giving AI emotions because that'll help them to12 minutes, 23 seconds
generalize and become AGI, and it could help them understand human values and be more empathetic. So, in a decade or two,12 minutes, 30 seconds
it's
likely that AGI androids will gain sentience and emotions. If we get
conscious AGI androids, I think it's quite likely that we'll totally12 minutes, 39 seconds
disengage from humans as they get sick of our slowness, stupidity, complaining, lying, manipulation, etc. So, if AGIs do12 minutes, 47 seconds
end
up disengaging from humans, that solves the whole problem of human
unemployment. The human economy would carry on like it is today, boosted
by12 minutes, 55 seconds
narrow AI, and then there's no need for UBI, etc. The bad news is is that really no one has really tried that hard to13 minutes, 3 seconds
like
just make these issues salient to explain these issues to solve the
solution of like just just stop just just don't build super
intelligence.13 minutes, 11 seconds
Super intelligence should be illegal the same way that nuclear bombs are illegal.13 minutes, 15 seconds
You
know, you're not allowed to build a nuclear bomb. Tough luck. You know,
the men in black come, you know, and are like none of that. The same
thing apply should apply to super intelligence. just13 minutes, 23 seconds
making
this crisp like in a sense obvious case like given everything we
discussed it's just like this is the as you said this is the obvious
thing we do just don't do it like we should just and13 minutes, 32 seconds
we
should also prevent people from doing that we should prevent criminals
and other people from doing things that that threaten the lives of us
and our children you know and then we can talk13 minutes, 39 seconds
about you know maybe in 20 years we make a lot of progress on safety we can talk about it right but then the overwhelming13 minutes, 47 seconds
you know thing that I find is that given that how little work has been done on this issue There's still many lowhanging fruit.13 minutes, 55 seconds
Like there's so many lowhanging fruit.13 minutes, 56 seconds
So
in the sense it's like optimistic or just like oh you can just talk to
people and you can just make progress on this. Are the doors opening?14 minutes, 2 seconds
The door is very much opening. On the other side we are running out of time.14 minutes, 6 seconds
We are just so running out of time. It is it's grim. Aren't we too late? Isn't the cat out of the bag? You know you14 minutes, 13 seconds
could
have some agreement with OpenAI Anthropic and Gemini. China's not going
to stop. Russia would build it if they could and they probably could
build it in some way. Like, are we too late?14 minutes, 24 seconds
I think we're very close to too late.14 minutes, 26 seconds
I'm
not gonna lie. I think we're very close. Like, I've said, you know, 5
years ago I said, you know, we have at least 5 years and now I'm like,
you know, we have14 minutes, 34 seconds
maybe
maybe two years, maybe three, maybe four, you know, maybe none. That's
hard to say. I don't know when the point of no return is. And we won't
know,14 minutes, 42 seconds
right?
Like, we'll never know. It could but but it could have already passed. I
do take it seriously that we might have passed the point of no return.
It might have already happened.14 minutes, 49 seconds
Guys, in my opinion, my biggest concern is the implications of this advancement.14 minutes, 54 seconds
Knowing
the kind of vile and sinister people that exist in the world, they
might use this already highly advanced AI to create fake events that
make15 minutes, 2 seconds
someone
they hate look like an awful person, convince a lot of people that
those fake events are something that really happened, and shatter that
other15 minutes, 9 seconds
person's
reputation. In other words, AI might ruin a lot of people's lives, and
it should be stopped or even completely dissolved before it's even close
to too15 minutes, 17 seconds
late.
And that too late might come sooner than we all think. And at the same
time, I also think that the cat's out of the bag. Even if you could get15 minutes, 25 seconds
all
governments and businesses to officially drop it from their tech
agendas, there will still be someone somewhere that continues to advance
it15 minutes, 33 seconds
underground
to whatever ends they desire and without public knowledge or official
oversight. It's scary and it's coming and we can't or won't stop it. The15 minutes, 42 seconds
advancement
we're seeing today, I think it's just the beginning. I think it's just
the tip of the iceberg. All right, guys. I'm done for today. I'll see
you15 minutes, 49 seconds
next week with another
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